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🗓️ 29 May 2024
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A recent headline in the trades went 'Richard Dreyfuss Takes Stage At Massachusetts ‘Jaws’ Screening Wearing Dress Before Delivering Rant Described As Transphobic; Venue Apologizes.' That was a banger of a headline, but actual video and audio from the event was pretty spotty . Whenever I see headlines like these, I kind of wonder, "Was it really that bad, or was some humorless person just ignoring context and and inflection to make it sound as provocative as possible?"
Luckily when I tweeted about it, someone immediately piped up "hey, I was at that screening!"
I naturally figured, well, we might as well ask him about it. Our guest is Wes Rosen, who's a cook from Beverly, Massachusetts. He sent me a picture from the evening to prove that he was there, which probably wouldn't pass muster with the FBI, but I have no reason to believe he's bullshitting me (if it turns out I got "took," in The Wire parlance, I'll be the first to issue a correction). Wes says he doesn't listen to the show, but as a guy who makes fun of NPR and attends Jaws screenings he seems very much our demo.
As far as the question, "Was it really that bad, or was some humorless person just ignoring context and and inflection to make it sound as bad as possible," Wes seems to suggest that it was a little bit of both.
Richard Dreyfuss's book that he was promoting, by the way, is called "One Thought Scares Me."
"Our democratic republic is failing, and it shouldn’t be a surprise. We can’t fly a plane without training; we can’t practice medicine without attending medical school. And yet we expect the American people to wield the full power of their citizenship, the product of the most revolutionary governmental thinking in human history, without any education.
We no longer teach our children the Bill of Rights or Constitution. We don’t teach the Enlightenment values that underpin them. We don’t teach the critical thinking skills and mental agility necessary for our own sovereignty. We’ve stopped teaching civics, and now we can’t have a civil political discussion. The American experiment may fail if we don’t act.
Richard Dreyfuss is a forceful advocate for civic education. His latest work, One Thought Scares Me…, explains how the lack of civics education in American education for the last fifty years has led to the deterioration of all aspects of the lives of us, the people. And it shows us the path to reclaiming our American ideals."
It sounds like Dreyfuss hates Trump, but is also maybe anti-#MeToo and confused by "The LGBT" and trans identities in general. Which is to say, probably pretty close to the Frotcast Listener's Parents Demographic. Talk to your confused Boomer parents about the dangers of Shrimp Jesus today.
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0:00.0 | Hey frog cast listeners it's Vince here. I've got what I hope is a fun little piece of |
0:06.9 | bonus content for you. The other day I think yesterday I saw a headline in the trades this is from deadline |
0:16.8 | Richard Dreyfus takes stage at Massachusetts Jaws screening wearing dress |
0:21.6 | before delivering rant described as transphobic semi-colan |
0:26.1 | venue apologizes. And that sounded pretty fun to me, pretty interesting. I tweeted about it, just sort of talking about the headline and |
0:35.6 | then someone in my replies immediately piped up to say, hey I was there at that screening. |
0:42.0 | And I thought, why don't I get that guy to talk about it? |
0:46.0 | So I you know, damed him and he was willing to do a little |
0:52.0 | frockcast segment. I feel like you see these sort of headlines in the |
0:58.0 | trades that you know of course they're going to run with like the most provocative |
1:02.3 | version of it and then sometimes you read the story and it's not |
1:07.5 | doesn't quite live up to the billing so I was you know I thought we had a rare opportunity to hear it straight from a firsthand source and so I hit him up and yeah |
1:19.2 | We decided to have a little chat about it so you can enjoy that all right. |
1:27.0 | So, yeah, tell me are you a big Jaws fan is that way is that way yeah, yeah, no I love Jaws |
1:40.0 | It's sort of like a family tradition. My dad, his wife and my brother, we go down to the vineyard a lot of the summers, you know where they film Jaws and the Cabot in Beverly, great little theater, they screen Jaws most Memorial Day weekends and just a fun blockbuster movie. |
2:00.0 | And where is that? |
2:02.0 | Cabot's in Beverly, Massachusetts. |
2:04.0 | And I assume you're from the area? |
2:06.6 | Yeah, yeah, yeah, I grew up a couple towns over |
2:08.3 | and I live in Beverly right now. |
2:10.4 | Cool. |
2:11.0 | So, so what was the billing like was advertised as like, you know, Richard Rifis? |
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