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Was I In A Cult?

[BONUS] Amy Duggar King: “Holy Disruptor”

Was I In A Cult?

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True Crime, Comedy, Talk Radio

4.43.1K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Today’s story isn’t about a reality TV show—though a lot of people think it starts there. In truth, it began long before the cameras, before the matching outfits and the too-perfect smiles.


You know the TLC series 19 Kids & Counting—the Duggars and their seemingly perfect world built within the IBLP.


But there was another Duggar—of sorts. Not a sibling. The cousin. Amy. Or as America came to know her, “Crazy Cousin Amy.”


Except she wasn’t crazy. Isn’t crazy. Not even close. She just wasn’t in their cult—the IBLP. What no one saw, though, was that Amy—an only child—was surviving her own hell at home.


Her new memoir, Holy Disruptor, is a story of breaking cycles, setting boundaries, and finding herself in the aftermath. Today, she joins us to talk about her journey—from the quiet terror of her childhood to life in the public eye, through the scandals that shattered her trust, and toward a life built on truth, healing, and peace… even when it means disrupting “family.”


And no, she wasn’t in the IBLP, but by the end, she may just find herself wondering… “Wait—was I in a cult?”


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0:00.0

The views, information, or opinions expressed by the guest appearing in this episode solely

0:04.4

belong to the guest and do not represent or reflect the views or positions of the hosts,

0:09.4

the show, podcast one, this network, or any of their respective affiliates.

0:15.0

After Josh's scandals, that's when I was like, okay, I'm going to educate myself on this

0:20.6

emotional whiplash that I have been going through my entire life.

0:25.5

And like, what is truth?

0:27.6

I had so many trust issues.

0:29.5

I had so many things that I really needed to disrupt.

0:32.9

And so my book is called Holy Disruptor because you can disrupt things that are not holy.

0:39.0

You can disrupt the things that are not healthy in order to live a better life.

0:44.1

I'm going to breathe.

0:53.4

Welcome to Wasaina Colts. I'm'm Tyler Isam. And I'm dying.

0:59.4

Liz isn't feeling well. I'm not, but I'm here. I'm excited to be here. I'm Liz Ayakousie.

1:05.6

Drew the pain, the sickness, the ph. P.H. L.E-M. She shows up. Anyway. You put on the hard hat, you go to work, Liz. Exactly. You know, you work a 40-hour week for a living. I got to mind the gold. Just to send it on down the line. All right. So, today's story isn't about reality TV, although we do touch on it a bit, though many may believe

1:29.7

that's where it begins.

1:31.1

But the truth begins long before that, because today is a story about a woman who grew up

1:36.4

surrounded by fear, disguised as love, and who fought her way towards peace, one boundary

1:42.4

at a time.

1:43.6

Her name is Amy Dugger King.

1:46.1

Now, you may recognize the middle name.

1:48.9

Yes, those Duggers, the family behind the show, 19 kids and counting.

1:55.4

The sweet, sweet family, right?

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