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You Can’t Make This Up

BONUS | American Criminal: Crypto Criminals

You Can’t Make This Up

Netflix

True Crime, Documentary, Tv & Film, Society & Culture, Film Interviews

4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 1 January 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

In the documentary, The Biggest Heist Ever, we learned about Heather “Razzlekhan” Morgan and Ilya “Dutch” Lichtenstein, who were accused of conspiring to launder $4.5 billion in stolen bitcoin. But this is just a peek into the world of crytpto criminals and the people who track them. Today we're bringing you a recent episode from our friends at American Criminal, where each week host Jeremy Schwartz takes you inside the minds of some of America's most notorious felons and outlaws. In this episode from the Sam Bankman-Fried series, he sits down with Wired senior writer Andy Greenberg to talk about the day that FTX collapsed and the wild world of crypto crime detectives. You can read more in Andy's book, Tracers in the Dark: The Global Hunt for the Crime Lords of Cryptocurrency. Listen to all four episodes of the 'Sam Bankman-Fried' series on American Criminal, wherever you get your podcasts.

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0:00.0

It's the afternoon of October 1st, 2013, and the Glen Park neighborhood of San Francisco.

0:15.0

Most schools have let out for the day, so the streets are bustling when 29-year-old

0:20.0

Ross Ulberg steps out of his apartment.

0:23.2

In his backpack, he's got his laptop, ready for a few more hours of work before he calls it quits.

0:30.0

He's sick of being inside the apartment he shares with three roommates, so he's heading for his

0:35.1

favorite local coffee shop.

0:37.2

When he gets to the coffee shop,

0:39.3

though, it's busier than Ross was expecting. Looking around the space, he can't see a single

0:45.3

open table. So, although he could really go for a caffeine head right now, he turns on his heel

0:51.5

and heads back outside. But Ross doesn't want to just go home.

0:57.2

Luckily, there's another place nearby where he likes to work.

1:00.9

The Glen Park Library is right next door.

1:04.0

And, like the cafe, it's got free Wi-Fi.

1:07.7

So Ross walks a few feet down the sidewalk and steps inside, letting the noise of the street drop away as the doors close behind him.

1:17.6

He heads upstairs, making his way towards the shelves that hold the science fiction books.

1:23.9

There, he sits down at a desk beside a window and pulls out his laptop.

1:29.2

As soon as he logs in, Ross gets an instant message from one of his employees.

1:34.7

He doesn't know the guy's real name.

1:36.9

In Ross's line of work, anonymity is key, so all he can see is a screen name, Cirrus.

1:43.8

After brief pleasantries,

1:45.8

Cirrus asks Ross to take a look at an important issue

1:49.3

that's causing some bugs on their website.

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