Nick Hanauer here today I have some incredibly sad news to share which is you know

a man I admired immensely the economist Alan Kruger from Princeton passed unexpectedly

over the weekend.

He, Alan Kruger was one of the most remarkable economists of our time, and he had the courage

to challenge orthodoxy in ways that few people do and that we truly admire. He pioneered the empirical study of the minimum wage

and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that raising wages in fact does not kill jobs and as a consequence has you know maybe more than any

Economist living

contributed to improving the lives of millions and millions and millions of people.

I didn't always agree with everything Alan said,

but I was always an admirer of his authenticity and integrity and his decision to live a life committed to service.

He was a part of multiple administrations and

Obama's Ann Clintons and did just a remarkable job and everything that he did.

Anyway, as a tribute to Alan, who we interviewed earlier in the year.

Here's our candid and unedited conversation.

Hey Alan Nick. Hey Nick, how are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing, you know, I say personally I'm doing fine.

Yeah, other than that, it's all good. I went to a breakfast talk this morning by Michael

Blumenthal. Michael Blumenthal was Treasury Secretary for Jim MacArthur. Oh right, yeah.

92 years old he was born in Berlin, and it was on the parallels between Trump and Hitler,

and I kind of came away depressed.

So that'll do it.

That will do it.

Oh yeah, yeah. Are you in Princeton, New Jersey right now?

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