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So, Father Jacob Bertrand, we are honored by your presence.

This is Easter season.

What's going on? is I when it's not that you haven't been here before but each time you show up is like a special

it's like it there's something special about it because you know your smile and your

your joy and your effectuous yeah I mean just the kind of the general, you know,

bonavivant you could say. I think that's, I don't know how I don't know how French

works. I know how to read it. I have no idea to pronounce it. So, but

but so yes, so we're happy to have you and this is a special of course I'm happy to be on here with you

Because I delight in in the episodes this is a special episode because this is part of our Back to Basics' Eucharistic series.

And already at this point we've talked a lot about the Eucharist, but this one is on a topic that I particularly like,

I expect you to do as well, which is devotion, devotion, devotion, because devotion is this heart- Well devotion is a word that tracks me that gets its

spirituality and love and the heart and religious practice it's a nice compact where it's got a lot there to be to unpack and a lot that it

covers so I like the word devout and it's just like I like the word pious or piety

Although they both can have negative connotations but what do you think what do you think about devotion do you like is it is do you like the concept you like the word yeah it was

are you devoted for I think. And as much as like I'm a consecrated religious and a priest, I think I'm pretty devoted in those kind of ways. Now, yeah, maybe we can, well, obviously, well, maybe not obviously, but with religious vows, there's not an ontological change, but like ontologically, given the fact that I'm ordained, like I'm devoted to that. I don't know if in practice how devoted I am, I think I'm pretty lazy when it comes to being I don't

know devoted to things I guess I don't know maybe I am maybe I'm not but it's funny that

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