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Hey there folks, welcome to part 2

of this very special edition of the show

We're asking the author question where I

and the hunted one usually are one where you are interview you

I'm my producer and friend you're interviewing me about my Bonhoeffer book.

Part one was the first part.

And this is part two.

Yeah, we're actually in the middle of a really wonderful Bonhoeffer retreat where we have some

friends of the show and friends of your book that are here to see the film and to visit some of the places where Bonhoeffer

visited during his time in New York, which you write about in the book.

And we saw the movie last night and then had a brief talk back a gentleman there had a

question about and it's one that that people bring up you know about Bonhoeffer he was sort of

like this darling uh... that the pacifist movement had sort of claimed as their own.

Yeah. And then your book kind of wrestled him out of that a bit

significantly. Well, talk about that.

Well, I mean, you look, you have to try to make sense of they keep talking about

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