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Eric Maudeau, Texas.

Hey there, folks.

Welcome to part two of this very special edition of the show.

We're asking the author questions.

Where I am the hunted one.

Usually I'm your one. Where you are interview, Chris I'm my producer and friend, you're

interviewing me about my Bonhoeffer book. That's right. Part one was the first part. Yeah.

And this is part two.

Yeah.

We're actually in the middle of a really wonderful Bonhofer retreat where we have some friends of the show

and friends of your book that are here to see the film and to visit some of the places where

Bonhofer visited during his time in New York, which you write about in the book.

And, you know, we saw the movie last night and then had a brief talk back.

A gentleman there had a question about, and it's one that people bring up, you know, about Bonhofer.

He was sort of like this darling that the pacifist movement had sort of claimed as their own. Yeah. And then your book kind of wrestled him out of that a bit significantly. Well, so talk about that. Well, I mean, look, you have to try to make sense of, they keep talking about him as he's a pacifist, he's a pacifist, he's a pacifist. Oh, oh, and then he gets involved in the plot to kill Hitler.

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