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Talking Feds

Bondi to Blanche and Bad to Worse

Talking Feds

Harry Litman

News, Politics, Government

4.84.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 April 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Mimi Rocah, a veteran federal prosecutor and former colleague of Acting AG Todd Blanche, joins Harry to assess Pam Bondi's legacy at the Department of Justice and what lies ahead for the department now that she's gone. Rocah fills Harry in on Todd Blanche's total transformation into a pro-Trump ideologue—one as devoted, but more canny and probably more dangerous than his predecessor. And Mimi gives Harry some insights from her forthcoming book—Justice Under Siege—about Trump's complete takeover of the DOJ.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I think of it like a Tamagocchi.

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At the end of all of this...

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We're going to have a little baby.

0:21.6

Raising Chelsea, a Hulu original series streaming exclusively on Disney Plus.

0:26.6

18 plus subscription required T's and T supply.

0:33.6

Welcome to Talking Fed's One-on-one, deep-dive discussions with national figures about the most

0:43.4

fascinating and consequential issues defining our culture and shaping our lives. I'm your host,

0:51.1

Harry Littman. Just when you thought it couldn't possibly get any more turbulent at the Department of Justice,

0:57.8

Pam Bondi is out.

1:00.8

The dominant conjecture for her ouster is failing to give Trump the scalps of his enemies as he wanted,

1:08.0

though God knows what more she was supposed to do.

1:11.7

To talk about her firing, her legacy, and where the DOJ goes from here, we have the

1:18.7

perfect person and a great friend of Talking Feds from way back.

1:23.9

Mimi Roka, a former federal prosecutor for the Southern District of New York for over 16 years.

1:32.7

From 2021 to 2025, she served as the elected district attorney of Westchester County.

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