Hi everybody, welcome to Dance Noose History. Everyone's talking Bond this week.

Everyone's talking Bond, but what I want to talk about is what is the reality of this?

Is Bond just some like mad cosplay to overcome British anxiety and embarrassment at retreating

from global hegemony? Like what is going on with Bond? Is it taken seriously in the world

of intelligence? So I asked, somebody knows more about the world of intelligence than

anyone else on planet Earth, Christopher Andrew. He is the official historian of MI5,

British Security Service. He is a professor of modern history, former chair of history

at Cambridge University. He has taught many senior spies and academics in the world of security,

right across the planet and he's worked with KGB defectors like Ole Gorieski and the city

metronome. He is in the world of intelligence history, the king of it, the emperor. He is the M.

And as you'll hear, he is remarkably complimentary about Bond and what it all means.

This is fascinating. If you want to listen to another podcast about Bond, please do so.

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Christopher, great to have you back on the podcast. Thanks for coming on again.

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