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BOMBSHELL Updates - A Scheduled Massage, Obama Dinner, & Powerhouse Defense | Rob and Michele Reiner

Hidden True Crime

Hidden True Crime

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime, News, News Commentary

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

As first-degree murder charges are filed in the Reiner case, new reporting is complicating the timeline. A missed massage appointment, dinner plans that abruptly vanished, and the moment their daughter Romy was alerted something was wrong all raise new questions about when the killings occurred—and what the family may have known. With special circumstances alleged and the possibility of the death penalty looming, this case is only becoming more complex. About Hidden True Crime What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ New York Times Article: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/12/16/us/rob-michele-reiner-death-investigation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

First degree murder charges, special circumstances, the possibility of the death penalty.

0:07.0

Today's press conference changed everything in the Reiner case and in less than 24 hours.

0:13.2

Not to mention, we've already heard from the defense attorney taking on the case.

0:17.7

The same one that, are you ready for this?

0:20.3

Same one that represented Karen Reed.

0:23.1

Yeah. We're walking through the legal significance of each update and why this case is only just

0:30.7

beginning. But we're also bringing you new reporting tonight, including conflicting accounts of a

0:36.6

moment between Rob and Nick Reiner at a

0:38.4

Christmas party before the killings. New details about how their daughter, Romi, first learned her parents

0:43.6

were dead, as well as a massage therapist who was scheduled at the house and a possible dinner with the

0:48.8

Obamas. These are details that add critical context to what may have happened inside that house, and they

0:55.2

raise even more questions about timing, perception, and what the family knew.

1:00.8

My name is Lorne Matthias, and this is hidden true crime.

1:21.7

Nick Reiner, Rob Reiner and Michelle Singer-Riner's son, and the alleged killer was expected to appear in court today. We were waiting. However, according to his attorney, that didn't happen because Nick has not yet completed his mandated medical clearance, which is required before he can be brought before a judge.

1:34.2

And we'll talk more about his defense attorney. Yes, that defense attorney and what that can mean for his case in just a bit.

1:42.6

But first, let's break down what was actually said during

1:46.4

today's press conference, what officials confirmed and what they carefully avoided answering

1:52.3

and why those details matter as this case continues to unfold. So earlier today, the press

1:58.7

conference finally answered the biggest question in this case.

2:03.1

What charges the DA is moving forward with against Nick Reiner?

2:07.0

And the answer is very serious ones.

2:11.5

L.A. County District Attorney Nathan Hockman announced that his office is filing two counts of first-degree murder against Nick Reiner

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