This is the Tom Hartman program.

Hey there, let's do a radio program.

Wow, see pack, you know, we went to CPAC for years.

One of the hallmarks of this show up until the Trump era when Republicans

started refusing to go on progressive media.

It used to be that they would you you know, gladly come on here and debate me. I mean, you know, two, three times a week.

You know, we used to regularly have Republicans and conservatives on this program.

And I used to go to CPAC and I'd sit there on the radio row and all the

guests who come down, you know, they'd sit and talk to Sean Hannity and then they'd

sit and talk to me and you know I get in fights with them and it was just fine.

Well, CPAC has now banned all liberals and all Democrats and

you know most Americans unless you're like you know gung-ho in favor of what

killing America or something I don't know

destroying democracy from CPAC as if they ever had it I mean we banned ourselves

from CPAC about what five six years ago we just quit going it it just it got so sick it got so toxic

he got so weird frankly

Phil Hittner will be with this what about that new NATO chief

also a call you doing something right.

Oh, Scarborough finally called out both sides'ism.

And Geeky Science, Accuweather's sounding alarm bells regarding a possible

supercharged hurricane season this fall. So a lot going on here. But to start out,

on the line with us is our old buddy Debbie Hines, the trial lawyer, legal and political commentator, former prosecutor,

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