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Overthink

Body Positivity to Fat Feminism (feat. Dr. Amelia Hruby)

Overthink

Ellie Anderson, Ph.D. and David Peña-Guzmán, Ph.D.

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Education

4.7550 Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2021

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

In episode 27 of Overthink, Ellie and David speak with feminist philosopher and author Dr. Amelia Hruby about fat feminism, intersectionality, alternatives to the male gaze, and her project #selfiesforselflove. Before the interview, Ellie and David discuss their issues with the "body positivity" movement using phenomenology, and suggest why Sonya Renee Taylor's account of radical self-love is a better alternative. The episode closes with a deep dive into the racist history of the thin ideal using the work of Sabrina Strings.

Works discussed:
Sabrina Strings, Fearing the Black Body
Virgie Tovar, You Have the Right to Remain Fat
Sonya Renee Taylor, The Body is Not an Apology
Alexandra Sastre, "Towards a radical body positive: Reading the online 'body positive movement'"
Amelia Hruby, Fifty Feminist Mantras
Maurice Merleau-Ponty, The Phenomenology of Perception
Kimberlé Crenshaw, "Mapping the Margins: Intersectionality, Identity Politics, and Violence Against Women of Color"
Patricia Hill Collins, "Controlling Images"
John Berger, Ways of Seeing

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm David Pena Hussman.

0:08.9

And I'm Ellie Anderson.

0:10.5

Welcome to Overthink.

0:12.3

The podcast were two friends, who are also professors, put philosophy in dialogue with the everyday.

0:18.9

Because big ideas are within everyone's reach.

0:29.4

After being the first large black woman to appear on the cover of Vogue, singer Lizzo,

0:35.8

whose fans are known as Lizzie's, which I just love, noted that the

0:42.2

body positivity movement, which began as a way of combating the stigma attached to fatness,

0:48.5

has been co-opted. And it's been reduced to a hashtag that no longer supports the fat community.

0:54.1

What are your thoughts about this, Ellie?

0:56.0

I mean, I have lots of thoughts on the concept of body positivity and its limits, both as a concept and as a movement.

1:05.3

And I think I see on social media all the time these photos of like totally conventionally attractive,

1:13.5

mostly white women, oftentimes with surgical modifications being like, love your body.

1:21.3

You're perfect the way you are.

1:23.4

You have to love yourself first.

1:25.5

And it just strikes me as extraordinarily superficial and a way of

1:28.9

getting income by associating oneself in particular with brands that have association with the body

1:35.3

positivity movement. It's like, oh, give me a sponsorship because I'm wearing your bras and I'm

1:41.2

part of this body positivity movement. Well, and this is precisely Lizzo's point, namely that the term no longer reflects the

1:48.2

interest of what she calls the 18 plus club, i.e. women who wear a size 18 or higher. So it's

1:56.1

suddenly these thin women who are jumping on the bandwagon and appropriating this concept typically to profit from

2:03.7

it. And it means that the concept of body positivity is no longer doing the critical work

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