Body Language Expert: The #1 Cue That Makes People Dislike You

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

Civility Media

Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Relationships

5 • 5.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Ever wonder why some people just click with everyone? In this episode, I sit down with my friend Vanessa Van Edwards—behavioral investigator, author, and founder of Science of People—to break down the science behind first impressions, charisma, and connection. We dig into what people really notice in the first few seconds of meeting you (hint: it’s not your words), how to instantly build trust, and the vocal mistake most people make when they say “hello.” Whether you're walking into a boardroom or meeting someone on the street, this is the conversation that’ll change the way you show up. Check out Vanessa’s amazing website - https://www.scienceofpeople.com/ Thank you to our sponsors: Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 40% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out. Momentous. Visit https://www.livemomentous.com/ and use code JEFFERSON for 35% off your first order. Our Place. Visit https://fromourplace.com/JEFFERSON and use code JEFFERSON for 10% off sitewide. https://fromourplace.com/?utm_source=audio&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=JEFFERSON BetterHelp. Click https://betterhelp.com/jeffersonfisher for a discount on your first month of therapy. Order my new book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show! Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter. Join My School of Communication Watch my podcast on YouTube Follow me on Instagram Follow me on TikTokFollow me on LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:30.0	Welcome to the Jefferson Fisher podcast.
0:32.8	I've brought you somebody who is not only a personal friend, but somebody you need to listen to.
0:37.3	If you're listening to this podcast, I know you do but somebody you need to listen to it. If you're
0:37.5	listening to this podcast, I know you do it because you want to improve the next conversation. Well,
0:42.3	this is somebody who's going to help you do that. This is Vanessa Van Edwards. If she looks
0:46.3	familiar to you, it's probably because she's been everywhere. If she's been on anything,
0:50.5	it's a million podcasts and for a good reason. Vanessa is a behavioral investigator,
0:56.4	is I think the way she would describe it. She is an author of several books. She's the founder
1:00.7	of Science of People. It's a wonderful website that we're going to be talking about later of how
1:05.2	to get into that and get more classes from her. All about how do you talk about charisma? How do you
1:10.1	improve first impressions? How do you talk about charisma how do you improve first impressions how do you
1:12.1	deal with behavior in a conversation that's going to help you enrich your life Vanessa
1:18.7	thanks for coming thanks for having me it's so good to see you even through the screen
1:23.2	i know i was saying earlier it takes a podcast for us to see each other again.
1:29.0	She's, Vanessa and her husband are wonderful and have big good friends throughout this whole experience while I'm going.
1:35.5	Hey, Vanessa, you've been on this podcast. How was it? How's it going? What are you doing? And Vanessa is the, she's for sure the veteran. She's the pro in this space. As someone once told me
1:46.4	yesterday, oh, you know, you've just had an overnight success. And I'm like, if overnight
1:50.6	success is doing a video a week for 17 years, then yes, I've had overnight success.
1:57.2	For sure. Vanessa, I, in this podcast, in this episode, I really want to hone in on some of what I already know is your expertise.
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