Hi everyone. We recorded this week's epic an extra special preview of the substance we held with Movie at home in Manchester two weeks ago.

It's a real gory body horror hagsploitation in a gorgy pink bow. So be warned to look up trigger warnings before you go into it.

Thank you, Ayurani for being my co-host, Olivia for production and the movie team for partnering

with us on this one. The substance is out in cinemas now, so please watch it before listening

if you don't want any spoilers. Hello everyone. I'm I'm Ione. And I'm Gina. I'm the founding editor

of Polyester. And I'm Gina, the senior editor of Polyester. Thank you all so much for joining us and sticking around after the film. Yeah, mine's a bit blown. Yeah, so I saw this film like two months ago. And immediately after leaving the screen in, I rang Ione. I was going, ah! And then I only did it the first time tonight. So we've got a very fresh perspective from Ione, so I'm really excited to pick her brain because not even in that 15 minute interval I got a chance to properly. What were your initial, well, what were your initial thoughts upon second viewing? On second viewing, I think it was more gory than I remembered, which is crazy, because I was, this is the craziest thing I've ever seen. It also gave me lots of thoughts on, more thoughts on depictions of female bodies, I think, like the way that the, not just the like grotesqueness of it, but the amped up visuals of like the sexy bits. Like when Sue's doing a show, like I kind of like handbrushed over it but I think

when you first watch something and then you like think about it like you think you for hone in on

those like really gross bits and like the really extreme bits but when I was watching it like

the contrast of those really like glossy bits really stood out to me yeah I think that definitely

I mean the first thing I noticed was that Margaret, how do you say her last name?

Margaret Qualley.

Quali.

We're terrible last names.

Has fake tits in it, which I thought is interesting that like even the vision of beauty was still like artificial in some way.

Well, she's completely artificial, but as in like they didn't try and i feel like they played into her naturalness

in some ways like very like doe-eyed and like big teeth and like gorgeous and youthful but then her

actual body was like very very unrealistic in a way and did like evoke plastic surgery i would say

yeah definitely this is like a plasticity to the whole film.

And I think like it's one of those things, isn't it? Like you always hear like your grands say when you're grown up and she's like, not even she looks like that. And you're like, yeah, grand. But Margaret Colley doesn't look like that and she's like the vision of perfection in this film. I was saying in the end of all, I wonder if they asked Danty McTowell to do it.

Oh. and she's like the vision of perfection in this film. I was saying in the end of all,

I wonder if they asked Dante McDowell to do it.

Oh, that would have been good when I thought the casting for this is so like on the nose.

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