There was such an intense calm that to this day I still remember and actually it made me feel really guilty because I saw my parents like hysterically crying because I did the very cliche I hate that my death was so cliche but I flew that's the episode title. better. We're all made of human.

You are listening to the Made of Human podcast, the podcast in which I try to figure out how to do life.

Turns out no one knows. No one knows how to do life, so it's primarily just me talking to people about how we don't know how to do life. Welcome. Thank you for pressing play and for listening to this. I

apologize if I sound a bit tired, low energy. I think I've started hibernating a bit. I feel very much like just

wearing my pyjamas all day and staying in bed watching TV not in a depressed way just in a

comfy home kind of way I feel like putting on a movie

so all you hear is the ZZ from this projector

and then not really what they're saying in the film.

Which is why it's good that I always

watch films for subtitles because of my second language and that is my excuse.

So I'm going to let you listen to this episode with Michelle Elman.

She literally just left my kitchen. It's the first

episode I've ever done in my own kitchen and it was so so nice. It was so lovely.

I mean working from home. It's so great. But I'm so grateful that Michelle wanted to meet me instead of in town where we were going to meet because I just couldn't.'ve just been editing this book that I'm writing which will be out in spring and I just couldn't face the bus I couldn't face it I couldn't face the bus I couldn't face it I just couldn't leave my house and

I knew the Michelle of all people would understand that and I just needed to sit and

bed and work on the the final touches on the book. So that's where I'm at currently,

psychologically and comfort-wise. I did the whole podcast wearing my pajama buttons feeling

not really ashamed feeling quite good about it I should always do this

podcast wearing my pajama buttons in my kitchen because this has been a huge success for my comfort.

But I imagine you can also hear that in my voice how comfortable I am.

So before I let you listen to this episode with... you can also hear that in my voice how comfortable I am.

So before I let you listen to this episode with Michelle Elman,

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