We've waited for months now trying to understand the dynamics of the injuries that were sustained

by Paul and Maggie Murdoff. And as it turns out, they're as brutal as we expected them.

Today, we want to try to understand exactly how their deaths came about, the sequencing of the

injuries that they sustained, and precisely how long did it take for them to die.

Today, I'm taping from Hollywood, California, so the sound is going to be a bit different than normal,

but I felt the need to hop on here and wake up Dr. Remer's testimony in the trial.

I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is Body Bags.

Joining me today is Dave Mack, reporter with Crom Online. Dave, as I mentioned in the opening,

we've been waiting some time now for the testimony of the forensic pathologist, and

here we have it before us. It's certainly sent a shockwave through that courthouse.

The lead up to testimony of Dr. Ellen Remer. As you mentioned, this is the one thing

that people have really been waiting for. Alex Murdoff is on trial for the murders of his wife

and son. So Maggie and Paul, they were both murdered on June 7, 2021 on Murdoff property.

They were both murdered within minutes of one another, and they were both murdered with different

weapons. There's a lot to unpack here. Dr. Remer was testifying about the wounds to Maggie and Paul.

As we begin, I have to ask you a very specific question. I thought we're at trial.

You're going to show us pictures. We're going to see the pictures of everything that's going on

with Paul and Maggie Murdoff. And what they did first, though, Dr. Remer used posterboards

of male and female diagrams. Why would that happen, Joe?

When we look at autopsy photography, first off, for those that are not familiar with the trauma

at all, and keep in mind, this is being used as a descriptor, as an illustrative aid,

for a jury that is comprised of layman. Maybe there's a nurse on there. Maybe somebody

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