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Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan: Poisonous Intent, The Eric Richens Case

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime, News

4.28.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Body Bags, hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack unravel the mysterious death of Eric Richens, with links to a Moscow Mule cocktail and his wife, Kouri Richens. They delve into Kouri's persona, from her self-published grief book to her alleged actions leading to Eric's death, they shine a spotlight on the clandestine world of poisoners, the intricacies of CPR in a death investigation context, and the world of toxicology and post-mortem drug panels.

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Time-codes: 

00:20 - Introduction.

01:15 - Case of Eric Richens.

02:25 - Media attention dynamics in relation to high-profile cases.

03:00 - Intro and analysis of Kouri Richens' self-published grief book.

06:35 - Hypothesis on Kouri's grieving widow persona as a potential smokescreen.

07:35 - The nature of poisoners and speculation about Eric Richens' possible poisoning.

10:00 - In-depth profiling of the victim, Eric, and his wife, Kouri, along with a discussion on their financial dynamics.

14:15 - Theories around Kouri's possible poisoning attempts.

15:25 - Kouri's alleged financial theft from Eric and potential motivations.

17:20 - Toxicology and anaphylaxis.

20:45 - Role of medical examiners in unexplained deaths and the process of performing CPR.

23:40 - Examination of crime scene narratives vs. physical evidence.

27:40 - The autopsy process and specifics around gastric samples.

32:35 - Detection of substances like fentanyl in forensic pathology.

34:10 - Eric Richens' death announcement as a homicide due to fentanyl overdose.

34:25 - Outro.

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0:00.0

I'm a bodybag with Joseph Scott Morgan.

0:14.2

When I was a kid my grandmother had these tumblers.

0:23.9

I love to drink out of.

0:25.4

They've made them now in the present day so that they're very similar to the way they

0:31.0

were back in the 50s and 60s.

0:33.0

And they're aluminum.

0:35.8

And you can actually see the condensation kind of dripping off the sides.

0:40.4

And for me that always indicated a cool refreshing drink.

0:44.2

There's an alcoholic beverage out there that uses a similar mug.

0:50.2

But it's made of copper and it's equally as refreshing.

0:56.0

But with of course the added alcohol that comes along with it.

1:01.5

Here's the recipe.

1:02.5

Two ounces vodka, six ounces ginger beer, half ounce of freshly squeezed lime juice.

1:10.2

And this is to be placed into a copper mug with ice and stirred.

1:16.0

It's called a Moscow mule.

1:18.2

But you know looking through this recipe I don't see an indication that fentanyl is required

1:28.8

to make this drink.

1:30.4

Today we're going to discuss the apparent homicide of Eric Richens and it involves the drink,

1:38.8

the Moscow mule.

1:40.5

I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is Body Bags.

1:47.7

Like with me my friend Dave Mack.

1:50.8

He's a senior crime reporter with crime online.

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