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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Body Bags With Joseph Scott Morgan: Is Kohberger the New "OJ"? Did Defense Find The "Real Killer"?

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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True Crime, News

3.97.6K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

The judge in the Bryan Kohberger trial is still searching for the person or persons who leaked info to Dateline that was used in NBC’s 2-hour special on the Idaho Student Murders, “The Terrible Night on King Road” revealing new details and never before seen video that may be key evidence in the state’s case.  Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack talk about the latest news in the case and JSM breaks down some issues with how forensic evidence was moved from the scene, how the entire crime scene was treated in the days following the murders, as well as what the coroner did or did not do that could create problems at trial. No matter what happens in court or in the media, there are still four young adults who were murdered, and they must be remembered. They deserve justice.

Remember the Victims:

Ethan Chapin, 20

Xana Kernodle, 20

Kaylee Goncalves, 21

Madison Mogen, 21

 

Transcribe Highlights

00:13.15 Introduction - Part 2 - Kohberger Case

01:46.38 Judge is displeased with the leak in the case 
05:04.66 Risk at trial, slipshod manner the way the trial claimed

09:40.54 Implies some kind of trace element left behind on 
14:00.17 Evidence: a mattress was driven down the road in the back of a truck
19:54.71 Kohberger lawyer previously represented mother of victim, Xana Kernodle
24:04.54 Judge is completely aware 
29:01.53 Does the defense have a suspect other than Kohberger?
33:43.00 Timeline is going to be very important
39:14.10 Not all testimony will be available to public, some will not be streamed 
43:47.94 Whoever did this quadruple murder is/was a monster
44:11.81 Conclusion

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:05.5

Bodybacks with Joseph Scott Moore.

0:10.4

Dave, I've got to say with with Coburger, one of the things that has come up relative to this dateline special, is that the judge, to say, the very least, ain't happy.

0:30.0

You ain't happy at all.

0:31.0

And there are reasons that judges do things.

0:36.4

And they put this gag order in place because of the sensitive nature of it,

0:44.9

because they know that the media is all over it.

0:48.9

There is a temptation that abounds out there.

0:52.2

When you have information and money that can be injected into a circumstance

1:03.2

that would draw somebody out.

1:05.0

Now, I'm not saying that anyone is on the take.

1:08.0

However, I'm just saying when those bright lights are shown upon you,

1:12.6

and I'm talking about from the media, and you're in some kind of job where you otherwise

1:18.7

wouldn't have any attention at all, and you get the really important people from New York

1:24.5

that are going to show you some attention and show you value.

1:29.5

It's, uh, I tell you, man, it's, uh, it is a fruit of the poisonous tree. It truly is.

1:36.5

And, um, and it's a, it's a dangerous thing. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is body bags.

1:46.9

The judge wants somebody's hide in this case, Dave.

1:51.5

And I don't know if he's going to get it or not, Joe, but when I...

1:57.0

From the very beginning of this case, they've done things there that were just patently wrong.

2:04.8

From the very first thing that we heard from the county coroner.

2:11.9

Yeah.

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