Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan: Disturbing Findings in the Death of Debbie Collier
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🗓️ 5 March 2023
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
Debbie Collier, a Georgia resident, is reported missing on September 10th, 2022 after sending her daughter, Amanda, a Venmo payment for $2,385 with a message saying, “They are not going to let me go, love you.” She was found dead the next day in a ravine more than an hour north from her home. The newly released autopsy report reveals that when her body was found 80% of it was covered in second and third degree burns. Which is one of many reasons why the public was surprised to hear that the death has been ruled a suicide.
In this episode of Body Bags, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan and special guest co-host Dave Mack discuss Collier’s burns, the state of her clothing, the lack of debris found in her trachea, why police have ruled this a suicide, and much more.
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Show Notes:
0:00 - Intro
0:52 - Background and overview of case
4:45 - Debbie Collier’s clothing and what it tells us
8:45 - The autopsy report and Collier’s burns
11:30 - Burning to kill vs. burning to cover something up
13:05 - No evidence of debris in her trachea
15:05 - Police ruling this a suicide
18:25 - Carboxyhemoglobin level and hydrocodone
19:50 - Is there an indication that the burning took place after death?
22:10 - Manner of death
24:00 - Was this really a suicide?
25:40 - Do police sometimes downplay what they’ve seen to the public?
29:00 - Outro
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| 1:16.0 | Body bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. |
| 1:26.4 | Debbie Collier, I can't say that name without scratching my head a little bit because arguably |
| 1:32.8 | her death is one of the most bizarre that certainly I've covered in the past, I don't know, two years |
| 1:40.2 | probably. And now we have some answers and today we're going to talk about this update involving the |
| 1:47.5 | death of this 59-year-old office manager from Georgia. I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this |
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| 2:00.0 | Wow and I'm glad to have my buddy Dave Mack with me today. Dave is a crime reporter for crime online. |
| 2:06.9 | This case is something that we've covered, I don't know, for several months now I think and |
| 2:11.6 | certainly it left us all a bit befuddled I think because just in and of itself the fact that |
| 2:19.0 | her death was so closely associated with a fire it was in isolation kind of a very remote area |
| 2:27.1 | and there was nothing apparently stolen or missing from her it was just this kind of stand-alone |
| 2:32.4 | event that's had a lot of people really really asking a lot of questions I don't know do we actually |
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