Today we travel to a future where all animal testing is banned. What are the alternatives? What can we do without using animals, and what can’t we do? → → → Further reading on today’s episode can be found here ← ← ← Guests: Janet D. Stemwedel -- professor of philosophy at San Jose State University Lawrence Carter Long -- communications director at the Disability Rights Education & Defense Fund Kristie Sullivan -- vice president of research policy at the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine Deepak Kaushal -- director of the Southwest National Primate Research Center at Texas Biomedical Research Institute Hunter Rogers -- researcher at Northwestern University on EVATAR project Actors: Maria -- Cara Rose de Fabio Gaby -- Eler de Grey Marquis -- Rotimi Agbabiaka (check out his new solo show called Manifesto on June 21 at the African American Arts and Culture Complex as part of the National Queer Arts Festival.) New Marquis -- Xandra Ibarra John -- Keith Houston (also check out his karaoke nights in San Francisco) Flash Forward is produced by me, Rose Eveleth. The intro music is by Asura and the outtro music is by Hussalonia. The episode art is by Matt Lubchansky. Special thanks to Adria Otte and Molly Monihan at the Women’s Audio Mission, where all the intro scenes were recorded this season. Get in touch: Twitter // Facebook // Reddit // [email protected] Support the show: Patreon // Donorbox Subscribe: iTunes // Soundcloud // Spotify Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices