Bodies, Craft, or Nothing: Inside the DC Press Club UFO Event
That UFO Podcast
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4.7 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 23 January 2026
⏱️ 95 minutes
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Summary
On January 20th, a major UFO focused event took place at the Washington DC Press Club, hosted by James Fox and featuring testimony and discussion around legacy crash retrieval programs, alleged non human biologics, and long standing cases including Brazil and Varginha.
In this episode, Andy is joined by researcher and social media analyst Joe Murgia for a detailed breakdown of what was said, what stood out, and what still feels frustratingly out of reach.
They discuss the possibility of exhuming a body with family permission using modern science, the existence of alleged smoking gun videos that remain unseen, and why mainstream media once again failed to show up in force.
The conversation also explores the limits of disclosure, whistleblower protections, national security concerns, and why for the public, it may now be bodies or craft or nothing at all.
Is disclosure stalled, delayed, or simply waiting for undeniable proof.
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| 0:00.0 | This video of the being from Virginia, however long it may be, would be almost definitely smoking gun evidence. |
| 0:07.6 | He's gone to a lot of great lengths to try and get a hold of this. |
| 0:11.2 | And then you've got to imagine, if the video is genuine and does exist, whoever's got it, |
| 0:17.1 | potentially does fear for their life. |
| 0:19.0 | The second video is again involving James Fox as that Chuck Clark footage. I know Logan Paul has obviously seen it because he went with James Fox to view it, which is really frustrating because Logan Paul filmed it with a button camera and has then never that UFO podcast. As always, my name is Andy and joining me for a breakdown and look at some events that happened on the 20th of January in Washington, D.C. at the press club, along with James Fox and |
| 0:55.4 | others, I've got a prolific user of social media, and X in particular, cameraman, research |
| 1:01.5 | at extraordinary, and generally all-round good guy, Joe Margea. Joe, welcome back. |
| 1:06.5 | Hey, Andy. Good to be here. Great to be here. Thanks for having me again. Awesome. Thanks for coming back on Joe. It's been a while. And for anyone unfamiliar with who |
| 1:15.6 | Joe Margie is, if they're a user of X or social media, they're probably going to know you |
| 1:21.1 | and subscribe to your posts. You know, Joe has nearly 100,000 followers at this point. |
| 1:27.2 | But like Joe just said said before we hit record |
| 1:29.1 | only 50 people see his posts |
| 1:30.8 | he's in a fight with the algorithm at the moment |
| 1:33.0 | folks so good time to remind you to like |
| 1:35.4 | subscribe and comment on the video below |
| 1:37.1 | or if you're listening leave a review |
| 1:38.8 | but listen Joe for anyone |
| 1:41.1 | unsure or unfamiliar with your work |
| 1:42.9 | who's Joe Marcia? |
| 1:44.2 | What are you involved in the UFO topic? |
| 1:47.0 | So I guess the first UFO event in my life |
| 1:50.8 | was going to see close encounters of the third kind |
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