Bobby Chesney and Michael Sulmeyer on NSA and Cyber Command

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🗓️ 18 August 2017

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Friday morning, the White House announced it will elevate Cyber Command to a full unified combatant command. Within 60 days, the Secretary of Defense will recommend whether Cyber Command should also split from the National Security Agency. On Thursday, as rumors of the announcement surfaced, Susan Hennessey spoke to Bobby Chesney, a law professor at the University of Texas at Austin and co-founder of Lawfare, and Michael Sulmeyer, Director of the Cyber Security Project at the Belfer Center, about the organizational and operational consequences of elevating and splitting Cyber Command.

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1:06.0	It's obviously not novel to this space.
1:10.0	There can be competing priorities between collection
1:14.0	and disruption of operational effect if you prefer.
1:18.0	Throughout history, as long as we've had signals and intelligence,
1:22.0	there have been circumstances where the idea of continuing to collect
1:26.0	through a certain means or method that you may have to do a trade-off.
1:30.0	You could have a certain operational effect,
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