When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get criticized.

You do?

Yeah. Did you hear about that?

I didn't find the one. I found someone I respected and we made it the one.

In a sort of longing kind of view of love, people understand each other as if by magic.

Nothing in itself is addictive on one hand. And in the hand, everything could be addictive if

there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled. I now know that nobody changes

until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life.

I'm Gwyneth Peltro. This is the Goop Podcast, bringing together thought leaders, culture

changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers and seekers. Here to start

conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the power

to change the way we see the world. Here we go. Welcome to the Goop podcast. I'm Kelsey from Goop.

If you listen to Gwynett's recent AMA episode, you know she's taking a little holiday break,

but we'll be back in the new year

with an incredible lineup of guests. Until then, we'll be revisiting some of your favorite

conversations from the archive, along with a few new guest-hosted episodes we're excited to share.

Thanks for listening.

Hi, guys. Welcome to the Goop podcast. I'm Emily Hickey, and I run a digital ad agency called Chief Detective, and I'm co-hosting a new sub-series within the Goop podcast that we're calling the Pursuit series. This is all about exploring the various ways that we as women try to accomplish the fullest versions of ourselves in our most meaningful lives. And today I'm

talking to Bobby Brown, the legendary founder of Bobby Brown Cosmetics and now the explosively

growing Jones Road Beauty. She is the OG inventor of the no makeup makeup movement and the push

for women to realize how beautiful their real faces are. We talk about the lifelong battle for self-esteem and unconditional self-love, finding your personal why. And most of all, the power of saying, why the hell not? There's just so much to learn from Bobby and from her perspective on life. And I hope that you guys find this as interesting and as helpful as I did.

Hi, Bobby. Welcome to the Goop podcast. Hi. So, so nice to meet you and thanks for having me on.

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