Hi. Hi and welcome to the working songwriter this show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop.

I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

turning your concert tour act into a Vegas stage show,

or else a scrappy upstart.

Turning your open mic three songs into a concert tour act.

This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most. an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing. Hey everybody it's the Friday before Christmas. And I thank you for joining us. This will be our final show. this all juiced up on Advil and we're gonna we're gonna get through this today.

You guys see the lengths that I go to to get the old working songwriter done.

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