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Bob Lee Part 3: The Brilliant Programmer and a Lot of Wild Living

Foundering

Bloomberg

Business, Tech News, Technology, News

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Weeks after his death, Bob Lee’s toxicology report was released, indicating that he had alcohol, cocaine, and ketamine in his system. While his killing no longer fit neatly with the San Francisco Doom Loop narrative, a new story emerged that Lee traveled through an underground party scene known as “the Lifestyle.” Lee was twisted into a symbol for a second time, now representing the secret world of the wealthy tech elite. In conversation with Lee’s friends and family, reporter Shawn Wen tells the tale of the man they knew.

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0:51.6

Previously on.

0:53.4

701 in the breaking news, a tech executive is dead.

0:56.6

He was stabbed in San Francisco, south of Market Street.

0:59.8

Yeah, the latest reports have identified the victim as Bob Lee, the founder of Cash App and an executive of mobile coin.

1:06.6

One of our best friends called and said, I just saw on the news, and my heart shattered.

1:11.4

Elon Musk even weighing in with his tweet, quote, violent crime in San Francisco is horrific.

1:16.9

And even if attackers are caught, they are often released immediately.

1:21.0

They're saying he took a kitchen knife from his sister's apartment to his car, you know, with Bob, got in the car, went somewhere

1:30.2

else, and then attacked him.

1:33.1

It just didn't make sense.

1:35.4

Didn't make sense to me.

1:51.7

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