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So, Simbo, who are we interviewing today?

It's an interesting one actually, because usually I know a fair amount about them and you know nothing.

Yeah.

But we're in a similar situation today where neither us know much about us.

But my brother actually recommended this book.

You still know a bit more about them.

I read his book, yeah, that was a while ago.

Exactly.

Yeah, it's a theological hero of my brothers, Bob Ekblad.

Unusual name, that. It is an unusual name, we should ask him what the meaning of that name is. He was unusual, isn't it?

Yeah.

Echblad. So we're in Telford. He's come over from America to do some teaching in Telford and so we thought it'd take that opportunity

to catch up find out who he is. Yeah so we're going to be a student for the afternoon,

aren't we? Yeah, we are, yeah. It's going to feel very weird. It's going to feel really weird,

yeah. I haven't been in a lecture hall for a long time. Yeah, I've got a feeling you're going to

love it though. I probably will, yeah. I probably will love it. That's some students just walking past, then.

It does feel a bit weird, actually.

It gives the kind of people know that we are on a campus.

I felt like a bit of a schoolboy this morning, actually.

I often get this when we travel to somewhere.

I used to get this.

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