Bob Bauer on the White House Counsel in an Antidemocratic Moment

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🗓️ 29 December 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Bob Bauer is a former White House counsel, and he has been leading the legal response for the Biden campaign and transition to the unprecedented onslaught of efforts on the part of the president to overturn the 2020 election. He also recently wrote a piece for Lawfare on the current occupant of the White House counsel's office, Pat Cipollone, and how he should be handling the incredibly difficult position the president has put him in. Benjamin Wittes spoke with Bob about the article, the role of the White House counsel when the president is trying to overturn a democratic election, and the spate of pardons the White House has issued over the last few weeks.

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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:32.6	Do you say to yourself, well, I really serve the public best by trying to contain the
0:39.4	situation, which also means that the public isn't in a position to evaluate what's taking
0:45.2	place here.
0:46.5	We don't know.
0:47.8	Everything the president is currently skewing to do.
0:49.6	If you read this David Ignatius column in the Washington Post the other day, you know, he's
0:53.8	suggesting that there's all sorts of other plotting that may be taking place here.
0:57.2	The source is telling them about.
0:58.7	Well, we shouldn't be reading about it in the David Ignatius column, but that's taking
1:02.4	place.
1:03.6	People with good conscience in the White House should call the president now, or refuse
1:06.4	to continue to serve and make it their what's taking place.
1:09.9	I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast December 29, 2020.
1:17.8	Bob Bauer is a longtime LawFair contributor.
1:21.1	He's also a former White House counsel and you've probably seen his name in the news
1:26.7	of late because he's been leading the legal response for the Biden campaign and transition
1:34.6	to the unprecedented onslaught of efforts on the part of the president to overturn the
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