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You know, it just makes me think about it now

because we're talking about eighth grade

and I felt so cringing about myself for forever.

And it's like also, I didn't know better yeah I was an eighth

grader but yeah this is design matters with Debbie Milman from Design Observer.com.

For 14 years now, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative people about what they do, how they got to be who

they are and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this podcast, Debbie talks to Bo Burnham about his film 8th grade and to the young

star of that movie movie Elsie Fisher.

I was simultaneously the most prepared and least prepared I could be for the role.

And that is being the most prepared.

Kayla's not prepared for her life.

The interview took place in October 2018 at Adobe Max in Los Angeles in front of a live audience.

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