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🗓️ 5 April 2025
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Is what happened with the Studio Ghibli ChatGPT image generation stuff even legal? I spoke with AI lawyer Rob Rosenberg, former general counsel at Showtime Networks and founder and principal of Telluride Legal Strategies about it, and what he told me was very interesting.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to another weekend bonus episode of the TechMeme Right Home podcast. |
0:09.0 | I'm your host, Brian McCullough, as always. |
0:11.5 | We are going to do something today that is probably long overdue. |
0:16.6 | We've been talking about it so much, the legality of AI around copyright and things like that that I thought today we talked to an expert on these sorts of things. |
0:27.8 | We're going to be talking to Rob Rosenberg, who is the principal of teleride legal strategies. |
0:33.8 | Rob, thanks for coming on the show. |
0:36.3 | Thanks for having me. |
0:39.0 | Forgive me for being this blunt about it, but give us your bona fides, uh, briefly, if you |
0:44.3 | could, so that we understand, um, your, your background in this area. |
0:48.5 | Sure. I'm an attorney. I've been practicing, uh, 30 plus years. I am formerly the Executive Vice President General Counsel |
0:58.8 | of Showtime networks. And since leaving Showtime about two years ago, I've been running my |
1:04.4 | legal and consulting practice, Telluride Legal Strategies. |
1:09.3 | So let's start really high level first, okay? |
1:15.1 | What is the state of copyright law in this country? |
1:18.7 | Like, I mean that in the sense of, is it settled law, like settled going back to |
1:23.9 | English common law, or is it something that has been in flux in recent years because of |
1:29.6 | technological advances? Yeah, I think, you know, Choice B is definitely much closer to reality. |
1:37.0 | We are, you know, we, we as a nation and with the technology that is changing constantly on us, I think there's a lot |
1:48.4 | unsettled at the moment. There are certain concepts within copyright law with certain uses, |
1:54.8 | certain exclusive rights to copyright owners that are well settled and well established, |
2:01.3 | and it enables people to exploit and merchandise their creative works. |
2:06.5 | They register them for copyright, |
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