Welcome to another bonus episode of the TechMeme Right Home podcast. I'm your host as always Brian McCullough. This is another portfolio profile episode. It's a really kind of timely one as we're about to get into. But the company, the portfolio company that we're talking to today

is Terra Trust. If you want to look them up while we're talking, it's terra-dashrust.com, or just Google

Terra Trust. And we're talking to the founder, Mike DePatrillo. Hey, Mike, thanks for coming on.

Yeah, thanks, Brian, for the time.

Really appreciate it. All right. Let's start out, as always. Give me the two-minute elevator

pitch of what Terra Trust does. Yeah, so the two-minute elevator pitch is we focus entirely on

the environmental impact of technology. I always like to say that IT operations today is transforming into business operators,

right, with green ops going around, fin ops going around. So we give them the new data that they

need to operate in that new role. So it's sort of an observational product, like a SaaS platform that sort of lets people like identify and like

mitigate things around sort of your what would you call it, your bill of materials around

environmental costs and things like that.

Yeah.

So if we take it another level deeper, if you look at kind of IT operations,

they've traditionally operated with two knobs and dials, one being cost, the other being

performance.

So take the scenario of on deploying a new application.

Do I use four front-end web servers or two front-end web servers?

Well, performance-wise on that dial, four makes perfect sense, right?

Performance better.

And then on the cost since, well, a lot of stuff deployed in like Kubernetes and containers these

days, it cost me like 20 bucks, right? So the cost is negligible. What people don't realize is

there's actually downstream business impact to a lot of that stuff. As I said in the intro, we

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