And by that, the only way she was going to put it behind her in the near term is to go and

serve the five months in prison and five months of home arrest.

So she did it.

She sucked it up.

And she went off to Alderson, West Virginia.

And she was a model prisoner.

She made a lot of good contacts down there. She became a fan of and grew new fans while she was in prison. And she came out five months later, Rarin to go.

She had the ankle bracelet on,

but we started doing dinners

probably two or three times a week

for advertisers up at her house in Bedford

so that she could start to kind of resell the company.

If you are watching the video of this conversation, you might realize that Susan and I look

a little bit different.

I don't know if I left this in the edit or not, but we ran over time in the first half

of our conversation.

Susan was kind enough to come back to finish what is one of the most amazing careers

I've ever had the privilege to interrogate.

Susan, thanks for coming back.

Very happy to be here.

We were leaving off talking about when you were Leco at ABC, despite the fact that the slate

of shows that you had helped Shepard were huge hits and kicked off what I called,

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