Welcome to another bonus episode of the Tech Meme Ride Home.

I'm your host as always, Brian McCullough.

We are honored today to have a very special guest.

We are going to speak to Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon.

Senator, thanks for coming on the show.

Thanks for having me, Brian. I've been looking forward to it.

So you have a book out, came out just this week, called It Takes Hutzpah,

How to Fight Fearlessly for Progressive Change. So,

Hutzpah is a Yiddish word. I believe it embodies like grit, determination, things like that.

Why did you choose that as sort of the framing device for this book? How do you think Hutzpah should be

interpreted and why is it so vital today?

Ryan, I consider Hutzpah to be the indispensable instrument for having a better country.

And in fact, if you look at our history, some of the most notable events really showed individuals demonstrating extraordinary Hutzpah, nerve and grit and being willing to take on the odds.

You think, for example, of Abraham Lincoln or Dr. Martin Luther King.

I mean, we have example after example, and what I wanted to do was write a very different sort of book.

In fact, one of the things of the last few days that's really pleased me is a couple of young people

found some galleys and read it, and one of them came up to me and said,

hey, you're the Senate guy.

This doesn't look like a book written by a Senate person.

What I wanted to do was really talk about how we all have what I call inner

Hutzpah, and we've got Ron's rules of Hutzpah, 12 of them, to really let people polish

their ability to make a difference in their world and often in the broader world.

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