One of the promises of AI from an investing standpoint in terms of what's the business model,

who the winner is going to be, is this sense of abundance potentially in terms of what it can achieve?

Yeah, it's really interesting because you have this like sort of, you know, you have this

early days of the internet.

You just have this and use these metaphors to get that, but you have this early days of the internet, you would just have this, and use these

metaphors to get that, but you have these like sort of sense you've discovered a new land,

right? And there's an entirely new world that's opened up and that you can build whatever

you want in that you're in one. Right. And then on the flip side is, is that you're some real constraints in terms of what you can do, what you're capable of doing with technology, what you can do, what capital you have, all those constraints. And so like balancing those things is like sort of one of the key jobs of the entrepreneur. But it's also, you know, it is always, you know, them keeping in mind sort of the key jobs of the entrepreneur. But it's also, it is always, you know, them keeping in mind sort of the, I order, like, some

like, like, a new I am I actually building.

I think it is absolutely central to, you know, ending up building things which matter

and building things which change the world.

John Borthwick, thanks for talking to us today.

Pleasure.

I want to do a little bit of this is your life.

So let's go all the way back and just sort of ask you real

quick. Were you a computer kid growing up? Were you into tech and gadgets and things like that?

I was a nerd. I was a computer kid. I did my first bit of programming on a computer, which

included tape cassette. And I would never say that I was programmer.

As I grew up, I sort of ended up scripting more, sort of like figuring out how to

cobble together and use computer code to make one thing, choose something else.

And, you know, I grew up in the,

I grew up in the, I grew up in UK, half English, half French.

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