I'm Charlie Sykes. Welcome to The Contrary Podcast. Colby Hall over at Media, write something yesterday, and I want to share with it. Ask yourself, he says, if someone had described this week's events five years ago, military extraction operations, federal agents using lethal force against protesters, presidential threats of additional force, would you have believed it could

happen without immediate constitutional crisis? Add to that, the Justice Department, criminally

charging, not yet, criminally charging the chairman of the Federal Reserve, an institution designed

to operate independent of political pressure, the fact that it now feels almost normal is the crisis. Great point,

great place to start. We're not even halfway through January. So let's get to it. And our guest today,

boy, you can tell from the hat. This is a man who is defying the powers that be Miles Taylor, former chief of staff to the Department of Homeland Security, founder of defiance.org.

Miles, there is just so much to wade through.

First of all, welcome back to the podcast.

Good to have you here today.

Great to be here with you, my friend.

All right.

Let's start with, let's start with the,

with the Jerome Powell story. You wrote yesterday, which I thought was really very interesting.

Donald Trump, fearmongered about socialist dictators. Now he is becoming one. So talk to me about that.

I think, by the way, I mean, two things. Number one, this story is out there

in the news because Jerome Powell decided he's not putting up with it. He came out from behind the

curtain posted a video yesterday. Clearly, he is being defiant. He is not rolling over. And he's making

it very clear that this is not about any misconduct. This is about an attempt to intimidate and bully the Federal Reserve, the most important, I would argue, most important independent agency.

So talk to me about when you talk about these, you know, Donald Trump, the worst thing that could happen is socialist dictators and here we are.

Yeah, I mean, he has all of the hallmarks of it charlie i mean if you were going to try to be reductionist about what's happening you would say

you know in the span of a year Donald trump has gotten very close to asserting his power in such a way that he decides,

what is on your store shelves, how much it costs, who runs the companies that produce the things you buy,

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