Hey, everyone. This is Matt Lynch coming to you from Regent College in Vancouver. We have a really

special episode here. We're going to be syndicating another podcast called Blue Note Theology

podcast, and it's hosted by my good friend and professional jazz musician, biblical scholar,

and author of quite a few books, Mark Glanville. And he's been on On Script before. And I wanted to

share his podcast with you because it's unique and it's also really insightful. It brings

together jazz. Mark is a very accomplished jazz musician and his specialty is the piano. And he

brings that into the episodes, but also reflects theologically and he brings that into the episodes but also reflects

theologically and miscellologically about the intersection between jazz and how we think about

church and how we think about a post-Christian world. So I think you'll really enjoy this.

We're going to be syndicating probably two of these episodes over the next couple of weeks.

And we hope you enjoy it. If you want to check out his podcast, it's the Blue Note Theology podcast.

Go over and subscribe to that one and give him a review and tell your friends about it.

Hope you enjoy this. And thanks so much for listening.

On this episode of Blue Note Theology podcast, we're talking about leadership, specifically

how to nourish leaderful church communities. My guest is Winston Menkla, one of the top

double bass players in Canada. Here are some highlights from our conversation.

The trumpet player taking a solo, that's an obvious form of leadership.

But the drummer playing on a ride symbol, letting everyone know where the time and the rhythm is,

that's a form of leadership too.

Winston and I are going to overplay now.

We're going to be alpha leaders in the living room studio.

And we're just going to see what that does to the music and then talk about it.

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