Hey, I'm Kate Lindsay, and you're listening to Icy YMIMI or in case you missed it, Slate's podcast about internet culture.

And today I am joined by Alex Suskind. Welcome Alex. Hey Kate. How are you doing? Great. Alex is the news director at Pitchfork.

Here to talk to us about something called blue dot fever and why nobody seems to want to go to

concerts anymore. But first, since you are our first time guests on the show, I'm switching it up again a little bit. I've been doing this recently. Instead of asking you your first internet memory, I want to know your first concert, since this is your beat. I mean, I want you to go way back. I'm so excited to embarrass myself. Yeah. I mean that genuinely. My first concert was, it was a festival, once held in Washington, D.C.

It was called H.A. Festival, named after a long-since-defunct alternative music station,

their radio station.

Wow.

The one I went to was headlined by Limp Biscuit.

I must admit, I was very excited to see as an eighth- boy, you know, had like the backwards Yankee cap and everything.

So they headline, but there were also a few other acts like Chemical Brothers and Papa Roach and like a bunch of other new metal era acts at that time.

So yeah, that was my first concert.

So I came up very much in, this was not

my first concert, but just in the era of like all time low, cute as what we aim for, yellow card.

So I know my first ever concert was I think Cartel, which is like funny that it was my first

one because it's not a band that had that much significance to me.

But, like, my friend was going, so I went with her.

But I will say my favorite concert that I've ever been to is the Abba Voyage in London.

I don't know if you've been.

I have not.

I've had several friends who've been.

And despite my, I'd say, hesitation about anything like hologram-ish,

I've heard such good things about it. And I think I need to go. Yes. Yeah, the Abba voyage. Right now is

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