Hi Paul. Hi Ardly. How are you doing? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm so good. It's so great to have you on Small Town Dicks. Oh I am so happy to be here. So we want to know how did we persuade you to join us here on Small Town Dicks. Oh it was it was a lot of arm twisting. Not the truth.

Well what has always impressed me about Small Town Dicks is the professionalism. First you have your authenticity. You know Dan and Dave, myself we come out of real crime. We've had real experiences. And so the audience, the listeners are getting from Small Town Dicks. What actually happens out there. Not something that's been glamorized. But also you guys don't exploit the cases. You're empathetic to the victims. And this is what I'm all about. And I know that people who know me from

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Time at that stage basically meant nothing. There wasn't any time limit in this. But I remember getting to the door of the office. There was a police office.

And there was a police officer in uniform on either standing there. He said, some what's happening. What's happening. And I remember saying to him, I think we're all about to die.

Hi, I'm Yardley. This is Detective Dan. Hey there. And his identical twin brother, Detective Dave. Hello. And this is Small Town Dicks.

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Today on Small Town Dicks, we have the usual suspects I'm very excited. We have Detective Dave.

Hello there. Good to be back. I never know which order you're going to go in. So I'm always like, uh, okay, it's me.

I don't have a lot of power in this equation. So I tried to wield it where I can. And we have Detective Dan. Hello there.

Hello there. And Small Town FAM. I am so excited to welcome back to the podcast. This is so good.

Retired Detective Sam, who is in Northern Ireland, if I may say so. Hello Sam.

Thank you very much indeed for having me back. It seems they've just been such a long time. And it's good to talk.

Thank you. Of course we're all on Zoom. So, you know, the usual, I don't know, garbage trucks, dogs, cats. You name it.

I'm going to have a lunch delivery at some point in this. So doorbells.

The doorbells going to ring. So Sam, you have a really interesting case for us today. Tell us how this case comes to you.

Okay. So this case is actually very, very personal. It comes down actually to the personal feelings that occur after an event.

And sometimes we don't take them in the consideration. Very tragic case. And they told the do with the trouble in Northern Ireland since 1968.

You're talking about the strife between the Irish Republican Army, the IRA, who wanted Ireland to secede from the UK and the loyalists who wanted Ireland to remain part of the UK.

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