Blood, Sweat & Rockets: Operation Paperclip
Norco 80
LAist Studios
3.7 • 889 Ratings
🗓️ 14 February 2023
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
After WWII, the U.S. hired and promoted Nazi aerospace engineers in a program called Operation Paperclip — yet it drove away its own rocketeers, Malina and Tsien, for alleged communist activity. In this episode, we unpack that paradox.
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| 0:42.3 | L.A. LAS Studios In the last episode, we focused on the plight of Chen Chu Shen. |
| 0:50.4 | In previous episodes, we centered on Frank Molina and Jack Parsons. |
| 0:55.3 | Well, today we're going to take a bit of a turn. |
| 0:59.1 | That's right. |
| 1:00.3 | It's time for Nazis in space. |
| 1:10.1 | I am actually being serious because the involvement of Nazis in the U.S. space program, |
| 1:18.2 | the secret involvement of Nazis, I want to emphasize, and not just a couple, but a ton of them, |
| 1:24.1 | is one of the darkest, most important chapters of modern rocket science. |
| 1:30.3 | And it arguably influences the fate of the suicide squad as much as the Red Scare or anything else. |
| 1:38.3 | Let's start here, the V2 rocket, the world's first long-range guided ballistic missile developed in Nazi Germany. |
| 1:47.3 | It was called the V-2 missile, and it was one of their, quote, vengeance weapons. |
| 1:54.0 | Yes, V for vengeance. |
| 1:58.2 | The V-2 is almost 50 feet tall, weighs about 14 tons, and was the first rocket to reach space. |
| 2:07.1 | But unlike Molina's rocket, which was more than twice as small as the V2, |
| 2:13.6 | it was designed to attack allies cities, terrorize populations, and ultimately kill thousands. |
| 2:23.3 | In the eyes of the U.S. military, the V2 had the potential to change the course of the war. |
| 2:30.3 | So the U.S. military invited Fung Kahnman to study the German efforts through the intelligence information, |
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