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In The Dark

Blood Relatives, Episode 3

In The Dark

The New Yorker

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.728.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

One day, Heidi gets a call from Wakefield Prison, where Jeremy Bamber remains locked up, forty years after the murders. He’s one of the nation’s most reviled villains. But he insists he’s innocent. 


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Madeline.

0:01.7

Before you tune in to this episode, I wanted to remind you that New Yorker subscribers get access to the full Blood Relative series early.

0:09.1

All six episodes ad-free in the New Yorker app.

0:12.8

It's just $1 a week to subscribe, which you can do by visiting new yorker.com slash dark.

0:19.6

That's new yorker.com slash dark. That's New Yorker.com slash dark.

0:24.2

Heidi, I'm only about 45 minutes.

0:27.0

So we will have to schedule or schedule or whatever it needs to be done.

0:31.9

But it's great because I'm now on the phone with you.

0:34.6

And we can organize times.

0:36.7

We can organize, you know, dates, meetings. But

0:40.3

anyway, not to worry. We'll speak soon. Bye, Heidi. Happy birthday to me. Bye now.

0:49.9

40 years after the murders at White House Farm, Jeremy Bamba remains in prison.

0:57.0

He's locked up in a maximum security facility, known to the press as Monster Mansion.

1:04.1

To this day, his name and photo are still splashed across stories nearly every month,

1:09.7

with headlines like twisted family killers,

1:13.5

or what the UK's most dangerous prisoners eat for Christmas dinner, full menu revealed.

1:22.5

Despite all the fevered publicity surrounding the case. In the years since his trial,

1:28.3

I and the rest of the public had actually heard almost nothing directly from Jeremy Bamber.

1:34.5

Prison authorities in the UK often make it hard for journalists to talk with inmates.

1:40.0

So aside from a few quotes in the newspapers,

1:42.6

mostly disseminated by his supporters,

1:45.2

his own voice was lost in all the noise.

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