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It's hard to overstate how excited I am about my guest now.

Dr. Professor Marnie McCary.

He is Johns Hopkins School of Medicine Professor,

member of the National Academy of Medicine.

And his book just came out two days ago.

I'm a bit insulted that he waited two days to come on the show but I can handle it. The book is blind spots and if you

don't read it you're you're not doing yourself or the country of service I mean that sincerely

when medicine gets it wrong and what it means for our health

So Dr. Marnie McCary, welcome to the show. I always interview people as people, not just as scholars or advocates of their position.

So I'm going to start with a human question,

and it means a lot to me.

I'm not sure we can even come up with an answer.

You are what I call and what is a fact. You're an

outlier. So I have all every one of my listeners know because I say it so often only outliers do good. Not all outliers do good, but only outliers do good.

Since I'm preoccupied with goodness since high school.

I'm trying to figure out how do you make outliers who do good?

So what makes you tick?

Is it your nature? Is it a series of convictions? Why have you fought the

medical establishment which is hurting our country?

Well, I can take a gander at that. Good to see you, Dennis.

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