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The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Blind Spots in the American Education System: Session 136 with Kim Berens

The Behavioral Observations Podcast with Matt Cicoria

Matt Cicoria

Science, Mental Health, Skinner, Behaviorism, Behaviorconsultant, Aba, Behavioralpsychology, Health & Fitness, Appliedbehavioranalysis, Autism, Acceptanceandcommitmenttherapy, Fba, Social Sciences, Verbalbehavior, Bcba, Functionalassessment, Discretetrial

4.8648 Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2020

⏱️ 110 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Kim Berens (@KimberlyBerens5) joins me for a third time to discuss her new book, Blind Spots: Why Students Fail and the Science That Can Save Them.* In this show, we talk about her motivation to write this book, what she believes is wrong with the current approach to educating children in the United States, and what can be done to remedy this situation.

Like our recent episode with Amelia Bowler earlier this month, this is another great example of people trained in Behavior Analysis stepping out of our community and speak directly to a broader community. In short, it's an excellent model of dissemination, and should be applauded for this reason, along with all the other excellent attributes of the book.

I was honored to write a blurb for the promotion of the book, and if you'll indulge me, I'll share it here:

In 1984, B.F. Skinner wrote The Shame of American Education, in which he described how the American educational system failed to incorporate scientifically validated instructional practices. Sadly, this paper is just as relevant after almost four decades since its publication. In Blind Spots: Why Students Fail and the Science That Can Save Them, Dr. Kimberly Berens courageously picks up where Skinner left off by shining a light on the dysfunctional practices of the American educational establishment. In doing so, she debunks many popular myths that pervade current educational practices. More importantly, Dr. Berens offers concrete solutions for helping all students learn through the application of the natural science of behavior. This is a book that should be read by every parent, school board member, administrator, and teacher.

I could go on and on both about this book as well as the interview I'm about to play. But instead, I'll just ask you to give the show a listen, and if you're so moved, to pick up a copy of the book. Or even better, gift a copy of the book if you happen to know a teacher, school administrator, and so forth.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone. Welcome to session 136 of the Behavioral Observations podcast. Dr. Kim Barron's joins me again for a third time to discuss her new book, Blind Spots, Why Students Fail and the Science that Can Save Them. In this show, we talk about her motivation to write this book, what she believes is wrong with the current approach to educating children in the United States and what can be

0:21.0

done to remedy the situation. And boy, do we get into all sorts of other topics as well

0:26.5

in the general area of education. This is a fascinating interview that I hope you enjoy as much as I

0:33.3

did. Like our recent episode with Amelia Bowler earlier this month, this is another great example of

0:39.5

people trained in behavior analysis, rhetorically stepping out of our comfortable profession,

0:45.3

and speaking directly to a broader community. And I can't think of a community more important than

0:50.0

the stakeholders involved with educating children. In short, it's an excellent model of dissemination, and this book should be applauded for

0:57.3

this reason, along with all the other excellent attributes it has.

1:01.5

Before the book's publication, I was honored to be asked by Kim to write a blur for the

1:06.5

book, and I'll share it here.

1:08.2

Don't worry, it's really brief.

1:10.7

In 1984, B. F. Skinner wrote The Shame of American Education in which he described how

1:15.1

the American educational system failed to incorporate scientifically validated instructional

1:20.3

practices. Sadly, this paper is just as relevant after almost four decades since its publication.

1:28.3

In blind spots, why students fail in the science that can save them,

1:33.2

Dr. Kimberly Barron courageously picks up where Skinner left off

1:36.3

by shining a light on the dysfunctional practices of the American educational establishment.

1:42.4

In doing so, she debunks many popular myths that currently pervade

1:46.3

educational practices. More importantly, Dr. Barron's offers concrete solutions for helping all

1:51.7

students learn through the application of the natural science of behavior. This is a book that

1:57.4

should be read by every parent, school board member, administrator, and teacher.

2:02.4

All right, that's the end of the blur. And I could go on and on about this book as well as the

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