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The Fault Line: Dying for a Fight

Blair, Bush & Iraq | 7. Seven Days and Seven Nights

The Fault Line: Dying for a Fight

Sony Music

Society & Culture, News, Documentary, Politics, True Crime

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2020

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

US Secretary of State Colin Powell is tasked with making a public case for war at the United Nations. As he tries to sort fact from fiction he alights upon evidence from the mysterious Iraqi defector known as Curveball. Meanwhile, weapons inspector Rocco Casagrande is searching the Iraqi desert. How will Powell’s speech match with the reality on the ground? Want the full story? Unlock all episodes of The Fault Line, ad-free, right now by subscribing to The Binge. Plus, get binge access to brand new stories dropping on the first of every month — that’s all episodes, all at once, all ad-free. Just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of The Fault Line show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you listen. A Somethin' Else & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find out more about The Binge and other podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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Together, we are the world's emergency responders. It's the last weekend in January 2003 and Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's chief of staff, is sitting in his office when Colin Powell comes in.

0:47.0

He says,

0:48.0

I need you to go to a meeting in the White House Situation Room tomorrow morning, Saturday morning.

0:54.4

And I said, what's the meeting on?

0:55.9

He said, and you're going to talk about how we market the war if we go to war.

1:04.4

The meeting was about how to sell a war in Iraq to the public.

1:08.8

Lawrence remembers asking Powell,

1:11.2

Am I going over there for a Fait of complete? And we're just talking about how we're going to market it?

1:16.0

Or will this be a conversation about whether we should go to war? Is that still up for discussion?

1:22.0

The weapons inspectors were still in Iraq, the Americans

1:26.0

and the British were still arguing the process at the UN?

1:29.0

He knew I meant do I have some leeway to try to influence this so it isn't war.

1:36.5

And so he looked at me and he kind of smiled and he said, I have no idea.

1:40.0

You come back and tell me.

1:50.0

On Saturday morning, Wilkerson goes to the meeting. It's in the White House Situation Room.

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