Welcome to the dispatch podcast. I'm your host Sarah Isger and joining me as always.

Jonah Goldberg, Steve Hayes, and David French coming at us from Atchison, Kansas for some reason.

Today, we are talking about the 11 grants of clemency from the president that were announced

yesterday. And a little preview of the Nevada caucuses. The debate is tonight and Bloomberg

is coming to the stage, a little on media bias as well and where reporters are falling on all of this.

That's coming up. Let's dive in.

I want to start with a little more lead in today because the story surrounding the president's

grants of clemency yesterday, uh, does ours a little more lead in. So I've put these into four

categories and I'm going to roughly outline them for you guys, my four categories.

The first is the Angela Stanton category. This is a woman who was part of a car thief ring.

Non-violent as best I can tell her petition was supported by Al Vida King. There were several other

women like her in yesterday's clemency grants to start with. There were 11 clemency grants

yesterday. Let's put those aside for this conversation. Whether they're deserving or not without

diving into a record is maybe hard to say, but I think that's well within any presidential

prerogative to say that this person deserves a full pardon. The second category, uh, Michael

Milken, Bernie Kerrick, I'm sort of putting them kind of in the same category. Both of their

petitions, interestingly, were supported by Rudy Giuliani. Um, and the reason I'm putting them

together is because they had already served their time. They had then shown rehabilitation

afterwards. They were giving back to their communities. Michael Milken in particular had become

actually quite famous for his philanthropic work. Uh, you know, so category two is different than

category one, but still probably not that unusual for presidential partners.

Category three, uh, Paul Pogue is my poster child for this category. I'm not totally sure I'm

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