Black Women and Barriers to Leadership in ABA: Session 151 with Dr. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi

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Matt Cicoria

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🗓️ 8 March 2021

⏱️ 78 minutes

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Summary

In Session 151, I chat with Dr. Nasiah Cirincione-Ulezi about a range of topics, but we spent the majority of the time discussing her recent paper in Behavior Analysis in Practice titled: Black Women and Barriers to Leadership in ABA. Nasiah is the CEO of two organizations, Ulezi, LLC and Pivot 2 Inclusion.

If you haven't read her paper yet, please pause this show and go do so. It's a sobering account of some of the struggles faced by Black women in our field. Nasiah highlights her findings in this conversation, so I don't want to spoil them here in the introduction, so let's just say it's unsettling, yet necessary to hear about some of the challenges faced by Black women in our field.

Fortunately, Nasiah discusses some potential solutions, and more generally, provides us with some things to think about moving forward. In this episode, we also discussed her upcoming keynote address at this year's Virginia ABA conference, which is scheduled for April 16th and 17th. VABA is offering this event as both an in-person conference as well as a virtual experience. It you'd like to learn more, go to Virginiaaba.org, and if you sign up, use the code GOMBU to save at registration.

We closed the show out with a brief discussion of what behaviorally-based life-coaching looks like, as that's a service that Nasiah has been offering for some time. And then she closes the show with some outstanding advice for Behavior Analysts of all experience levels.

Here are the links to the resources we discussed:

Ulezi LLC and Pivot 2 Inclusion.
Virginia ABA 2021 Conference.
Blog post by Shawn T. Capell: The current status of African Americans within the field of Applied Behavior Analysis.
Humble Behaviorism (Neuringer, 1991).
Nasiah's YouTube channel, Ulezi the Advocate.

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0:00.0	Hey everybody, thanks for joining me in session 151 of the Behavioral Observations podcast.
0:07.0	In today's episode, I speak with Dr. Nassia, Surincione Ulazzi, about a range of topics.
0:15.0	And we spent the majority of time talking about her recent paper and behavior analysis and practice titled Black Women and Barriers
0:23.1	to Leadership in ABA.
0:25.1	If you're not familiar with Nasea, she is the CEO of Uleasy, LLC and Pivot to Inclusion,
0:31.2	and we talk about those agencies in this episode as well.
0:35.1	But getting back to her paper and behavior analysis and practice,
0:37.8	if you haven't read it, just do me a favor. Pause this show and go read it right now.
0:42.8	You can find a link to it in the show notes of this episode. It's really a sobering account
0:47.4	of some of the struggles faced by black women in our field. She highlights the motivation
0:52.7	as to why she wrote this paper, the methods that she chose to
0:57.1	examine this topic and some of her conclusions. So I don't want to spoil her findings here in this
1:02.6	introduction. Let's just say it is unsettling, certainly, and at the same time, it's necessary to
1:08.9	hear about these challenges so we can figure out how to move forward and make improvements.
1:14.7	And fortunately, on that note, Nisiya does discuss some potential solutions and more generally provides us with some things to think about this topic.
1:24.5	In this episode, we also discussed a few other things, including our upcoming keynote address
1:29.1	at this year's Virginia ABA conference. It's scheduled for April 16th and 17th. The Virginia
1:36.7	Association is offering this event both as a safe and socially distance in-person event as well as
1:43.0	a virtual experience. So if you want to hear Nassia talk,
1:48.2	despite where you live, you can just go to Virginia ABA.org and register to participate virtually.
1:56.7	And if you do sign up, use the code GoMBU. That's, I think, a nod to their sponsor, Mary Baldwin University.
2:03.6	Use the code go MBU to save it, registration.
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