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You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know. I guess you'd have to ask.

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Welcome to the History Extra podcast.

Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History Magazine and BBC History Revealed.

From political agitators to composers, artist muses and the goddaughter of the queen herself.

Black people led a variety of fascinating lives in Victorian Britain.

In Black Victorians hidden in history, doctors John Wolfe and Keisha and Abraham chart some of these lives, both ordinary and extraordinary.

And John joined me to share some of the stories that they uncovered.

So thanks so much for coming back on the podcast, John.

We thought it'd be good to have you back on because you've just co-authored a new book with Dr. Keisha Abraham, who sadly can't join us today.

But that new book is Black Victorians Hidden in History.

So let's start with some basic context.

What were some of the ways that people of African descent shaped Britain in the Victorian era?

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