Black Republican Celebrities, Plus Butch Ware: the Black Muslim Revolutionary Candidate
Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay
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🗓️ 31 March 2026
⏱️ 188 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. |
| 0:08.7 | What is up? |
| 0:09.3 | Howell learning is on, is I Van Lathen, Jr. |
| 0:11.1 | And it's me, Rachel and Lindsey. |
| 0:12.7 | We have an interview today. |
| 0:13.8 | We do. |
| 0:14.8 | Butch Ware, California gubernatorial candidate, talks about radical liberation politics he talks about why he feels that |
| 0:26.7 | the california democratic party is trying to keep him off of the ballot feels like he's polling |
| 0:34.0 | well and that there are people who don't want him on the ballot because |
| 0:39.8 | of what it means for electoral politics in California. Yeah, not just people, a system. I think it's a |
| 0:44.3 | really, really interesting interview. I think some people you hear radical, you think something |
| 0:48.8 | totally different. We get into that. It is passionate. It is educated. It is, honestly, it was a necessary conversation. |
| 0:56.3 | I think as we are in a place where we are starting to explore things outside of what we've |
| 1:00.9 | been told, what we've been traditionally taught, and what we're seeing currently in our political |
| 1:06.9 | system, this is an interview that I think will challenge you and give you a very, |
| 1:13.0 | very interesting perspective. We've had Josh Shapiro, we've had Gavin Newsom, had several |
| 1:21.2 | center-left Democrats on the podcast. I think it was, |
| 1:28.1 | it's helpful for the audience and we gave Butch a lot of time because I give |
| 1:33.5 | Butch a lot of love. |
| 1:35.2 | I get like I give Butch a lot of love and all of the questions that I'm sure people |
| 1:40.6 | will want us to ask about his feelings on the Democratic Party |
| 1:44.6 | and how those feelings jive with the current Trump administration and what they are doing. |
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