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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Black Project Ep. 1: A Dark History

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 8 April 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

On the debut episode of Black Project, the untold story of the military’s secret pursuit of anti-gravitic craft is revealed. From the mysterious death of a Nazi weapons expert, to strange comments from aerospace executives, and the disappearance of a scientist on the brink of a groundbreaking discovery—this episode uncovers the high-stakes world of hidden programs and covert experiments. Are these technologies the result of extraterrestrial encounters, or are they the product of classified black projects kept hidden from the public for decades? Change Agents: Black Project is an IRONCLAD Original Sponsors: Firecracker Farm Use code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

On September 23rd, 1947, Air Force Lieutenant General Nathan Twining issued a memo to Brigadier General George Shulgin about a very concerning issue that the Air Force had no idea how to contend with.

0:35.6

It would become known as the Twining memo.

0:38.3

The memo addressed sightings of flying disks

0:42.3

that maintained operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb and maneuverability.

0:47.3

The objects were described as circular or elliptical in shape,

0:51.3

with a metallic or light reflecting surface.

0:56.9

Twining was clearly concerned about the national security implications of what he referred to as

1:01.4

the phenomenon. He noted that there is a, quote, possibility that some foreign nation has a form of

1:09.0

propulsion, possibly nuclear, which is outside of our domestic.

1:14.3

Nearly 80 years later, military officials and political leaders still share the same concerns.

1:20.8

Now, we have incidents where in sensors, sometimes even multiple types of sensors, detect things that we cannot explain.

1:33.3

UAPs, whatever they may be, may pose a serious threat to our military or civilian aircraft, and that must be understood.

1:35.3

That's Congressman Robert Garcia, ranking member of the National Security Border and Foreign Affairs subcommittee,

1:40.3

echoing a refrain heard repeatedly at recent hearings dedicated to the UAP phenomenon.

1:45.9

We should come to this hearing with an open mind, and we should not let our existing ideas

1:50.2

restrict us on either side. We can't be afraid of asking questions, and we can't be afraid

1:55.2

of the truth. Something is in our airspace, and it could be a very serious threat.

2:04.6

But maybe the best way to understand what these objects actually are is to look at when they first started showing up.

2:10.6

My name is Andy Stumpf, and this is Black Project,

2:13.6

a four-part change agents special investigative series.

2:20.3

We hear from experts, whistleblowers, and insiders to try to figure out if our government

2:28.9

is behind these strange craft. And if so, why are they keeping the truth from the public? In Safari, the modern sort of sightings era for UAP, I think really did start in World War II.

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