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Black Holes, Scallop Die-off, River Sound Map. Dec 18, 2020, Part 2

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🗓️ 18 December 2020

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

What Would Happen If You Fell Into A Black Hole? A new book, Black Hole Survival Guide, explores different theories of what would happen if you jumped into a black hole. Most of them are grizzly. As the reader traverses one of the great mysteries of the universe, they meet different fates. Author Janna Levin, a physics and astronomy professor at Barnard College at Columbia University in New York, makes a convincing argument that black holes are unfairly maligned—and are actually perfect in their creation. Levin joins Ira to talk black hole physics and theories, and answer some SciFri listener questions along the way. The Case Of The Vanishing Scallops Over the last two years, Long Island's Peconic Bay has lost more than 90% of its scallops—bad news for a community where harvesting shellfish has long been an important part of the economy. Researchers are scrambling to discover why this is happening. Is it predation, climate change, illness—or maybe a combination of everything? Joining Ira to talk about his research with the Peconic Bay’s scallops is Stephen Tomasetti, PhD candidate in marine science at Stony Brook University in Southampton, New York. They talk about what could be causing this devastation, and how a “scallop FitBit” could shed light into how these shellfish are feeling. Composing A Sound Map Of An Ever-Changing River Annea Lockwood thinks of rivers as “live phenomena” that are constantly changing and shifting. She’s been drawn to the energy that rivers create, and the sound that energy makes, since she first started working with environmental recordings in the 1960s. One of her projects has been to create detailed “river maps” of the Hudson, Danube, and Housatonic rivers. Using stereo microphones and underwater hydrophones, she captures the gentle, powerful sounds of the water, along with the noises of insects, birds, and occasional humans she finds along the way. Lockwood’s composition, “A Sound Map of the Housatonic River”—a decade old, this year—takes listeners on a 150-mile tour, from the headwaters in the Berkshire Mountains of Massachusetts, past sites of toxic PCB contamination, to the Connecticut Audubon sanctuary, where the river spills into Long Island Sound.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Iroflito. Imagine you're an astronaut floating through the vastness of space

0:06.7

with just endless solitude and quiet on all sides. Peaceful beauty, no? Or maybe just a little bit

0:14.0

intimidating. Now imagine as this intrepid astronaut, you come across a black hole in your travels

0:20.2

and maybe you lose your mind

0:22.2

and you decide to jump in. What would happen? I'll hear with me to talk about her new book,

0:28.0

Black Hole Survival Guide, is Dr. Janelle Levin, Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Barnard

0:33.4

College of Columbia University in New York. Always good to talk with you, Jana. Oh, it's so good. I would

0:40.0

say to be here, but we're just sort of in the ether, aren't we? We are. We are absolutely in

0:46.6

the ether. Let's get right into this idea of the book. This isn't the first book you've written

0:50.4

about black holes, and it's not the first time you've been on Science Friday to talk about him, as we're saying. What is it about black holes that keeps you coming back for more?

0:59.8

Yeah, it's funny. Black holes are extraordinary and not they're astrophysically real. So, you know,

1:06.5

the first time Einstein was presented with the idea of a black hole, a friend writes him a letter from the Russian front during World War I right after he publishes general relativity with this mathematical solution.

1:18.6

But, you know, Einstein sensibly said nature will protect us from their formation.

1:23.6

So they're astounding because nature thought of a way to make them, which is incredible by killing off a bunch of heavy stars.

1:31.5

But they are more than that.

1:33.9

Buckholes are almost fundamental gravitational objects.

1:37.9

They're almost like fundamental particles.

1:39.8

There's something foundational about them.

1:41.9

There's something theoretically impressive about them, that they're this unbelievable terrain on which we think about them. There's something theoretically impressive about them, that

1:45.3

they're this unbelievable terrain on which we think about things. And you open your book with the

1:50.3

phrase that you repeat a lot all throughout the book, and that is black holes are nothing.

1:56.6

Well, I mean, this is different from what a lot of people think, and you go over that.

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