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Black Girls Code's developing story offers a complicated look at lots of different things

Equity

TechCrunch

Entrepreneurship, Business News, News, Business, Technology

4.2372 Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2022

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Hello and welcome back to Equity, a podcast about the business of startups, where we unpack the numbers and nuance behind the headlines. This is our Wednesday show, where we niche down to a single topic, think about a question and unpack the rest. This week, Natasha asked: What happens when a Black founder was ousted? Alex was back on the mic after a week away, and we brought on Dominic-Madori Davis (follow her on Twitter and Instagram) to talk us through the topic. After all, the core question was inspired by her latest TC+ column. Here's what we got into: The growing tensions at Black Girls Code, which began last December with Bryant's "indefinite suspension." Bryant's eventual ouster, which happened earlier this month, and the outpouring of public support for the leader. That conversation brought us into the reality of who gets to speak up publicly, and who can only do so off the record and without attribution. Davis piece about the symbolism of a Black founder being removed from a position of leadership Inherent bias and how to navigate that in the stories we hear and tips we receive. Equity drops every Monday at 7 a.m. PDT and Wednesday and Friday at 6 a.m. PDT, so subscribe to us on Apple Podcasts, Overcast, Spotify and all the casts. Credits: Equity is produced by Theresa Loconsolo with editing by Kell. Bryce Durbin is our Illustrator. We'd also like to thank the audience development team and Henry Pickavet, who manages TechCrunch audio products. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Equity, a podcast about the business of startups where we unpack the numbers and nuance behind the headlines.

0:18.0

I'm Natasha Masqueriness and this is our Wednesday show, where we niche down to a single topic, think about a question and

0:23.7

unpack the rest.

0:25.1

This week we're asking what happens when a black founder is ousted?

0:28.4

It's inspired by our recent Tech Crunch Plus piece, and to talk through it all, I am joined

0:32.4

by Alex Wilhelm. We miss you so much last week when you're on vacation.

0:36.0

I missed everyone too. I'm not going to lie I did spend most of my time reading books and

0:40.4

laying down which was delightful and I

0:43.0

I recommend everyone do that because let me tell you it works fine but sitting around doing nothing great. I mean also I saw you were on Twitter but not that much so

0:52.4

congrats on that break as well.

0:54.6

I was in an area of the world with lower cell phone reception so that helps some.

0:58.4

I did try to retweet equity and TC Plus and everyone here but no, it's good to be off.

1:03.2

But sadly, we're not here to talk about my vacation for 30 minutes.

1:05.9

We have quite a lot to get through.

1:07.0

Yes, and we are going to be bringing on another Tech Crunch Plus reporter.

1:10.7

Dominic Madori Davis.

1:11.8

Dom, welcome back to Equity.

1:13.2

It's your second time on the show.

1:14.5

Yes, oh my gosh, thank you for having me.

1:16.8

This is going to be a heavier episode,

1:18.8

but one that I think is really important,

1:20.5

and I'm just proud to record with both of you

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