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Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

“Black Future Month” with Jamil Smith

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox, Open Mike Eagle, and Andrew Steven

Business, Arts, Performing Arts, Society & Culture

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2018

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Jamil Smith (@JamilSmith) joins Ana to talk about what makes Black Panther different from other Marvel movies and so important. They discuss the power of the movie’s metaphors to talk about colonization and the black experience in America as well as how this movie can prompt white people to think differently about white supremacy. Ana and Jamil also consider the active decision by the movie’s creators to make a movie for black audiences, and what that choice could mean for the future of movies and TV.  Jamil wrote the Time cover story on Black Panther, which you can find here. There is a lengthy digression about "Atlanta" and the Donald Glover profile in the New Yorker, and whether superhero movies always fight the last war while comedy confronts the future. Get in touch with the show on Twitter at @crooked_friends or email us at withfriendslikepod@gmail.com.  Check out our sponsors! Pop your political bubble with new Spotify Spotlight podcast Keep It, from friend of the pod Ira Madison III. Go to getquip.com/friends to get your first refill pack for free with a Quip electric toothbrush. Visit theblacktux.com/friends for $20 off your purchase of a stylish suit or tuxedo. Start your four-week trial of Stamps.com with postage and a free digital scale by visiting Stamps.com, clicking on the microphone at the top of the page, and typing in Friends. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Pop your political bubble with Keep It, a new spotlight podcast on Spotify.

0:05.0

Hosted by Iron Madison, Keep It discusses pop culture, politics, and what happens when they smack into each other at alarming speed.

0:12.0

And with Spotlight, you now get photos, videos, and animations that get you closer than ever to the real story.

0:17.0

Keep it. A new Spotlight podcast only on Spotify.

0:22.0

Keep It is also a show from the crooked media empire and Iron Madison isn't just Iron Madison, the host of the show.

0:28.0

He is Iron Madison, my pal, and he's hilarious and funny and you should definitely listen to the show.

0:33.0

I have no idea what kind of further goodies you get using Spotlight, but now I'm going to find out.

0:39.0

So keep it. Don't just keep it. Like listen to Keep It.

0:43.0

Hi, I'm Anna Mry Cox and welcome to with friends like these.

0:47.0

This week features a conversation with an actual friend and though this show is designed to create some uncomfortable situations and hard conversations.

1:00.0

I'll be honest with you, this is the Marvel Universe fan podcast today.

1:04.0

I'm going to talk with my friend, Jamil Smith, about Black Panther.

1:08.0

It's a conversation that winds up going in uncomfortable places, but it starts off being not uncomfortable because, quite frankly,

1:16.0

I just wanted to talk about much. I love the movie, at least for a little while.

1:21.0

And thank God, Jamil was here for it.

1:23.0

Jamil Smith wrote the time cover story on Black Panther.

1:30.0

He is a columnist for the Happy New Post and the LA Times. He is a regular friend of the pod.

1:35.0

He's also been on Love It or leave it. Welcome to the show, my friend.

1:39.0

Thank you, my friend.

1:40.0

I think I'd like to start us off by having you read an excerpt from your piece, the cover story on the Black Panther that appeared on time a couple weeks ago.

1:49.0

Yes, yes, February 19th issue.

1:52.0

So yeah, read this piece, just a couple paragraphs.

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